active CEO Podcast #43 Brad Gunn Four Day Work Week

Brad Gunn – Managing Partner Vault Accountants and Financial Services

On this
episode of the active CEO Podcast, Craig Johns speaks with Brad Gunn, from
Vault Accountants and Financial Services, about the four day work week, creating
a customer centric financial business, the role of technology in client
relationships, and high levels of staff retention. We also delve into sports
leave, incentivizing staff to be active and healthy, taking Triathlon
Queensland from insolvency, and his love of a fine wine.

Brad Gunn – Podcast Interview Brief

Brad Gunn is
a humble, thoughtful, determined and creative leader, who has the quote “When
you know your WHY, you’re going to attract people that bring the HOW” on his
LinkedIn page.

He has more
than thirty years experience in the financial services with senior roles in
investment advisory, funds management, practice management and accounting. His
education includes a Bachelor Economics, Accounting and Commerce at the
University of Queensland; and post-graduate studies in financial management at
the University of Adelaide and Columbia University in the City of New York.

In 2008 he
co-founded Vault Accounting and Financial Advisors in Brisbane, Australia, a
progressive advisory group that offers expertise across the entire financial
planning landscape.

Brad talks about:

  • His father always saying he was a leader and people would follow.
  • Client engagement and communication is the key to successful retention in any business.
  • Developing customer centric approach so that companies could come to one place.
  • Training, education and ongoing up-skilling being important to Vault.
  • Moving people across and up in the business has lead to high levels of staff retention.
  • The only way they are going to learn is get their hands dirty on the tools.
  • The role of technology integration with accountants in the client relationship.
  • Wanting to dial back from the business, where they can exit the business within ten years.
  • Trialling the four day work week in February 2019.
  • They were putting a 40-hour week in 4 days and productivity was up through the roof.
  • During the debrief staff identified an improvement in mental health and a reduction in stress
  • Incentivising Vault Accountant’s staff in leading an active and healthy lifestyle.
  • The inspiration behind starting the Croc Triathlon Club with Brad Bevan and Rod Cedaro.
  • Being a Board member for Triathlon Queensland for 11 years including President for 8.
  • Managing change with a struggling organisation, which was technically insolvent.
  • Changing the way that Triathlon Australia and the State triathlon organisations operated.
  • His wife Sally seeing the need for him to get his work-life balance sorted out.
  • BBQ favourite wine is the Wirra Wirra Church Block Shiraz
  • Wanting to solve the question of how to fix the Australian Tax problem

CEO Wellness Tip

Energy Meeting – Why don’t we challenge
the way we have always provided sugary muffins, coffee, lollies and soft drinks
as our meeting snacks? How do we expect to perform optimally and get the most
out of people when we are not focusing on strategies to ensure sustainable
energy levels. If we want optimal performance, optimal learning and optimal
outcomes then we need to implement effective energy strategies and that starts
with what food and drinks we put on the table.


“The university degree
doesn’t automatically give you the right to know everything. It really is only
a start.” Brad Gunn discusses
on the job experience, on the active CEO Podcast.

“The first
week was the most difficult as people were going through a transition and
adjusting. The second week everyone was getting used to it, the third week they
were loving it and by the fourth week can we keep this going.” Brad Gunn speaks about the four day work week trial, on the active CEO Podcast.

Resources Mentioned in this show:

Brad Gunn LinkedIn
Vault Accountants and Financial Advisors
Triathlon Queensland website
Craig Johns
Craig Johns LinkedIn
Ben Gathercole LinkedIn
Ben Gathercole Performance Coaching

Recommended Reading:

Better Than Winning – Ben Gathercole

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